Chrissie Hynde 22.3.06 One last time...

Welcome back to chriswasanon. Oh man, I know I shouldn't be doing this but the world is just about chocka full of nots and sometimes I just can't help myself. So we got the new best of Saturday shows at 12 bells a-coming but not for me - other stuff to do today er tonight. The Chrissie Hynde full interview which ran to some 40 pages is complete (joint Floratina and Chriswasanon production) and because I'm feeling in a celebratory kind of mood - I thought that I would lay one last piece out for your enjoyment. The next time you see this interview will be in a complete form over at www.cookandjones.co.uk. So you know how to tease me with a just a little glimpse of the top of my...when I raise my...and you... that's enuff woooo hooo...

This interview was broadcast on Indie 103.1 in the LA and OC area and simultaneously over the Internet on 22.3.06. Present were Chrissie Hynde, Rosanna Arquette and our own Stephen (milking it) Jones!

Chriswasanon is at the controls.

Chrissie: But what I do want to discuss right here…

Steve: Yeah.

Chrissie: …is this photograph of you which has brought to my attention of what you looked like twenty five years ago.

Steve: Gorgeous.

Chrissie: To my credit…

Steve: That’s when we ‘ad sex.

Chrissie:…friends.

Steve: Is that what you wanna say?

Chrissie: I just…

Steve: You ‘ad me when I was better lookin’.

Chrissie: Alright, you said it, I didn’t say it.

Steve: I don’t care. (pause) I’m not that bad! I mean I…

Rosanna: (surprised) You mean you guys did it? You guys slept together? (laughs).

Steve: I told yer that last time you was ‘ere.

Rosanna: I know I’m teasing, I know.

Steve: I’m sure she told you everything.

Chrissie: I don’t think we ever slept together.

Steve: Did you tell her…

Rosanna: You said you, “slept together,” like in the same bed but nothing happened.

Steve: “I might like you better if we slept together.” (Reference to a song currently getting a lot of air-play on Indie 103.1 at the moment). “I might like you better if we slept together.”

Chrissie: I thing we’re getting a little, away from the musical agenda of the programme here.

Rosanna: Right…

Steve: Do you remember that song though?

Rosanna: …but people love that.

Steve: That was a song I was just singing there.

Rosanna: Yes.

Steve: Who sung that, “Concrete?” (Asks Mr. Shovel if he can tell Steve the band’s name) new…?

Mr. Shovel: “Romeo void.”

Steve: “Romeo void,” excellent.

Chriswasanon production. Steppin' up - who can saaaaaaay ayyy ayyyy.

Chrissie Hynde Part 2. 22.3.06

Well I'm back in the hot seat for a whiles and while I'm busy reading about Chumbawumba, the Not Sensibles and just about anything else I can lay my hands on whilst my brain still functions, I thought I might trowel out a bitty more of the Chrissie Hynde interview which Tina has transcribed for you. A picture post too? Ah Success! Might I just add in here that the whole interview when transcribed will be available along with the whole Lydon interview at Kick down the doors? Thanks! (and the Swindle parts of the Julien Temple interview, too - Tina)

Present. Steve Jones, Chrissie Hynde and Rosanna Arquette.
Broadcast 22.3.06 on Indie 103.1 over parts of the LA and OC. area and then streamed over the Internet.

Tina is at the controls...

Chrissie Hynde Visits The Box March 22, 2006

Steve: You’re listening to Jonesy’s Jukebox on Indie 1031. I’m just an Englishman, milking it. And we’ve got Chrissie Hynde in the studio, ex-lover of mine (Chrissie laughs) and Rosanna Arquette, the sex therapist.

Chrissie: Bloody hell…if I’d known before I came in…you dirty…

Steve: You dirty rotter. What a bleedin’ rotter.

Chrissie: You haven’t changed much…physically.

Rosanna: No, actually he’s changed a lot though, wouldn’t you say?

Steve: Yeah. A lot.

Rosanna: Yeah…he doesn’t do that sex, drugs and rock and roll, well, the sex stuff, sorry. The drugs and rock and roll…

Steve: The sex thing is out of habit, more than anything, I talk about sex…I really don’t sleep around a lot at all anymore.

Rosanna: You just stay home and watch movies.

Steve: Watch things…(both laugh)

Rosanna: Look at Chrissie’s face.

Steve: Do you have brothers and sisters? I know nothing…

Chrissie: I have a brother.

Steve: …nothing about your background.

Chrissie: You don’t need to know.

Rosanna: He was a musician, though.

Chrissie: He is a musician.

Steve: Your parents still alive?

Chrissie: Yes, they are. They live in Ohio.

Steve: Yeah. You talk to them?

Chrissie: Yeah, I talk to them. I’ve rented an apartment in Akron so I can go and visit more often.

Steve: Really?

Chrissie: Yeah. I still have my roots. You know, I went from Akron to London. I never lived anywhere else in the States.

Steve: Yeah.

Chrissie: So I go back there and, you know, I have my Akron shtick, my friends there and stuff.

Steve: What, what made you get out of there? Is it just an industrial, horrible place?

Chrissie: Nah. I just didn’t want to be in the States. I could see this whole car culture coming in, I didn’t want to have to buy a car so I could get to work so I could pay for my car and get stuck into that whole malaise of…it’s just become one big sprawling metroplex. And of course I grew up on all that English music. I was dying to get over there and you know, see the bad teeth up close.

Steve: Did you, did you want to be in a band back then?

Chrissie: Of course. Always.

Steve: When you were young.

Chrissie: Yeah. I started playing the guitar when I was real young and stuff, listening to all the bands but, being a girl, I was, I never played with the guys in the art room and stuff. I was you know, at home playing. I wouldn’t mix it. I was too shy with the guys. It was only during that sort of, punk thing.

Steve: Yeah.

Chrissie: In fact, it was down the King’s Road, I went…it was a woman…you wouldn’t have known her. She lived above the uh, Barclay’s Bank and she, her son, Quentin, he had a little band. They were all about fourteen. They, they hung around with the Heavy Metal Kids. Gary Holton used to hang around there and I went in there for some reason one day, I don’t know, buy some pot or something and um, they…I heard the little kids playing and I said, “Wow, what’s that?” and I showed them how to play “White Light, White Heat” ‘cause they only knew a couple of heavy metal…well you know, not really interesting songs. That’s when I remembered that I could play and everything. That was a big turning point for me.

Steve: Yeah.

Chrissie: Well, then when that punk thing happened, I knew I could get in there without it being too much of a novelty, being a chick. Of course, it, you know, served me well. I’ve never…it made it easier being a girl because guys would carry my guitars tune ‘em and stuff.

Steve: I never carried your guitar.

Chrissie: I’ll bet you did.

Steve: I’ll bet I didn’t. I’d carry it now, though.

Chrissie: I’ll bring it up.

Steve: Really? I’ve got a guitar here. Let’s re-enact it…

Rosanna: You can carry it tonight.

Joint Tina and Chriswasanon production. Thanks to SF. Gail for the image. Steppin' up oh...something!

Transcript from March 28, 2006

Welcome back to CwA the aLterNATive jukebox jive blog, always about Steve. Our guitar hero. Also this a blog too for the members of CwA blog to rail and rant like today when I'm gonna get out of me pram for a bit and sound off. Tell all your friends about the cWa and bookmark us, do!

This here post is I reckon pressing and pertinent cos the health freaks of the world have caught up in Bonnie Scotland and passed laws which went in on Sunday 26th April 2006 wot sayeth anent tobacco we are no longer allowed to smoke in public places. Boozers without baccy? Cos basically non-smokers now out number smokers I guess.

There are currently lots of pub ashtrays available for free if one asks, " naicely"

How long before they get whacked up on ebay, eh? My other half is loving it - I think its all rainbow nazism myself but then I would wouldn't I? Don't bother posting comments about how pleasant non smokers are or how selfish I am or how a loved one died of cancer etc and how polluting fags are and how lovely it all is in your neck of the lager since fags have been elbowed out cos I won't publish 'em! Probly...Tina can if she wishes. Slightly uncompromising mode \off.


This interview was broadcast on Indie 103.1 and in the LA. and OC. area and over the Internet on 20.3.06

Tina is at the controls.

Steve: You are listening to Jonesy’s Jukebox on Indie 1031 on a very, very rainy Southern California day. Two minutes after twelve bells, it’s about sixty-something degrees Fahrenheit. That’s about, Celsius, that’s about eighteen? Fifteen? Something like that if my Celsius metabonacle is working. I think that’s what it says. Um, but I’ll tell you what’s funny, after my rain song yesterday…not my rain song, but my…anti-bulldozer song? No bulldozer this morning. You know why? ‘cause it’s raining! I laughed, I chuckled this morning, even though I was up at seven. I got a giggle out of that. See? See the powers that I have?
Is it clear now, Shovel?

Mr. Shovel: It’s amazing, Steve.

Steve: See, the powers.

Mr. Shovel: It’s good to see that, for the first time ever, the rain is actually having a positive effect on you.

Steve: Yes. I actually…I found myself whistling this morning – in the rain! Not singing, whistling in the rain. Like maybe just ‘cause I didn’t get the (imitates sound of bulldozer backing up). It was great. Oh, no. (laughs) It was great, it made me laugh. See, me, spoke to the other gods and uh, they answered me. See, us gods, we do each other’s favors, you know what I mean, now and again? Like, “you scratch my back, I’ll scratch your back” kind of thing.

Mr. Shovel: You ought to work on some bigger things, then.

Steve: Yeah, well you know, there’s big and small things in the world. Everyone needs attention. It’s not just the big things, you know. Take care of the little things. The big things’ll, whatever…fall into place. Yep, yep, yep. I’m there to do favors for other gods. They know my number. Did you know, Mr. Shovel, now I hope I’m not talking out my, uh, batty, but um, I heard that in Calabasas, it’s illegal to smoke out on the street. I believe. Do you just want to get on the ole internet?

Mr. Shovel: Our boss, I think, you know…there’s people who work here that live up there. We’ll find out.

Steve: I believe that’s…I might be completely nonsense, but I was with these people last week and they was telling me it’s illegal. It’s the only state in the country…

Mr. Shovel: I’m guessing it’s because of the fire risk.

Steve: Yeah, maybe, or maybe they’re using that as an excuse to test. You know, California, they’re not up to smoking. You know, they’re slowly, “can’t smoke in this bar” “You can’t smoke in this restaurant”…you can’t do this, you can’t do that. Maybe it’s uh, it’s fine with me, let me tell ya. Since I’ve (not) been smoking, I’d ban smoking, I’d make it illegal in the whole world, ‘cause it suits me, you know what I mean. I don’t care about smokers. When I was smoking, it was a different story. But uh…wouldn’t that be weird? You can’t smoke on the street in Calabasas.

Mr. Shovel: What about the sidewalk?

Steve: Well, that’s what I mean. That’s, that’s the street, innit? Parking lots, whatever.

Mr. Shovel: They had some pretty bad fires up there.

Steve: Yeah. But were they started by smokers?

Mr. Shovel: I’ll bet they were.

Steve: Or some lunatic who felt like…

Mr. Shovel: Maybe it was a lunatic who smoked?

Steve: Yeah. Maybe there’s a song in there. Would you help me write one? (strums guitar) Does that sound out-of-tune to you?

Mr. Shovel: Yes.

Steve: What do you know? Oh, it is a little bit. (starts to tune it) A…A…that’s what I can’t figure out, is why the strings get tighter. You’d think they’d get looser, wouldn’t you, unless someone’s been playing my bleedin’ guitar. (finishes tuning) Is that better?

Mr. Shovel: Yes.

Steve: I didn’t touch a thing, you know that? I was testing you Shovel.

Mr. Shovel: You’re lying. I saw you.

Steve: I didn’t touch a thing. See, you don’t know. Called your bluff, there. Okay. What should I write a song about? (blows into harmonica) Got any ideas?

Mr. Shovel: Yeah, no smoking in Calabasas.

Steve: All right! Um, I like them chords I played yesterday. What’s that Eddie Money song, (sings) “when you hold onto me…” ? (strums the chords) That’s it, innit?

There’s no smoke without fire
There’s no lightning without wire
I, I believe
that you don’t need me

Excuse me, Mister
can you put out your cigarette
There’s a new law in Calabassass
Put out your butts on the sidewalk
because we don’t want your type here anymore

Excuse me, there’s no toilets allowed in Calabasas
We’ve banned toilets
You’ve got to go to the next state - Malibu
We have banned all kinds of plumbing

There’s a new law in Calabassass
We’ve banned eating in public places
There’s a new law in Calabassass
you can’t breathe here
we made it illegal

What are we gonna
we gonna do now
But wait, you can’t even kill yourself
‘cause that’s illegal, too

(harmonica solo)

Time takes a cigarette
You put one in your mouth
But not in Calabassass
Oh-oh

Time takes a cigarette
Not in Calabassass
You ain’t got a chance
No no

I’m bored with this…

Joint Tina and chriswasanon production steppin' up Chrissie Hynde part 2.

Steve interviews Julien Temple - Part 2

Helen Wallington Lloyd gets busy with the letter G. The title sequences of the "G" reat rock 'n' roll Swindle were superb!

Heelloo...Tina here for ChrisWas. Just feeling my way around here, don't know if I'm doing this posting thing right, we'll see, won't we? As promised earlier, here is a second snippet from Steve's interview with Julien Temple.

Wot, was you expecting yesterday's delightful number, "Mr. Bulldozer"? It was got very complicated, that. How to express in letters the sound that Steve was making to represent the sound of Mr. Bulldozer's engine? "Urrrrnnn! Urrnnn!"?? Over. and. over.

Mr. Shovel thoughtfully sampled Steve's 'sound effects' and then 'live' Steve began a duet with himself as he was pretending to be a construction tractor. Didn't think that would translate well into written form. Unless you are really hankering for it...

Sooooo, we'll pick up where we left off last time, yes? Good.

Julien Temple Part 2

Steve:…I wasn’t in too great a shape when I was doing it. I might have acted like I was together, but I was uh, that’s when I started doing that nasty drug.

Julien: I didn’t realize you’d began that early. I know…

Steve: I remember one day, we were filming. It was, I think it was up the West End somewhere. It was the shot – I’ll tell exactly…you know the shot where I’m looking through the glass at the bird on the piano?

Julien: Yeah, yeah.

Steve: We did it in some shop up West End, right.

Julien: Right. We faked it, yeah.

Steve: I remember coming there and I’d been doing dope for about a year, like, just snorting it and didn’t realize that I had a habit because I never stopped…until that day. I went to do…

Julien: (?), wasn’t it?

Steve: Yeah and uh, I started feeling like rubbish and I remember I had to, I just had to just fly home, ‘cause I was feeling horrible and I remember getting in me house and doing it and thinking, “Oh, no…”

Julien: It’s ‘got’ you.

Steve: Yeah, “I’ve got a problem here.” And that was the day I remember doing the other side of the glass, I was pulling the faces, you know?

Julien: Yeah, yeah.

Steve: And that was up the West End and then the rest…who’s that bird’s house?

Julien: Oh, um, Lindsay…

Steve: Lindsay DePaul.

Julien: DePaul, yeah.

Steve: Yeah.

Julien: That was a great line, something about Lindsay DePaul and overlooking Karl Marx’s grave and the bedroom of Lindsay DePaul. You did it…

Steve: Oh, that was…yeah.

Julien: Well yeah, the saddest moment I ever saw you is standing, must have been soon after that, must’ve been on the corner of Old Compton Street, with all these you know, freebie Virgin Records…

Steve: Trying to flog ‘em?

Julien: Trying to flog ‘em, swaying around…

Steve: Awww…sad.

Julien: That was bad.

Steve: But look at me now.

Julien: Who would’ve known.

Steve: Look at me now…wow, yeah it was a mad time. It was very uh, very weird back then. What was that, ’79 was it, or ’80?

Julien: ’78, ’79. It came out in ’80. Strangest thing about that film, in a way was nobody…you know a censor looks at a film and tells you to take things out. I think this was the only time a censor, you know, sits down and writes something that you have to put in.

Steve: Right.

Julien: At the end, we had to do that whole thing to make it like, a moral tale, “Don’t do this” because Sid ended up like this and we had all these…it’s weird being told what you gotta do by the censors.

Steve: Yeah. Would you have, would you have done it differently if McLaren wasn’t involved? Would you have done anything different, you know, different scenes or whatever…different take on it? ‘cause he, was he, he was putting his two cents in right, McLaren?

Julien: Oh yeah, he had, well…we spent about six months you know, working out the…madness of the thing and uh, he was obviously a big part of it. But he wasn’t around that much when we shot it so, you know, it was, you know, left up to my own devices there and I’d brought things in like the cartoon stuff that my mates did at film school and so on. So we were doing things and then when, when things split up with Malcolm, he tried to fire me. We brought in a thing where we had a perspective on Malcolm as well. You know, “Where did the money come from?” “Did The Swindle include Malcolm?” which it obviously did in the end, you know.

Steve: He wanted that though, right?

Julien: I think so…to an extent, but…

Steve: ‘cause it comes across like, it’s like, this is Malcolm’s idea, to make him shine. But is that not true?

Julien: Well, it was…I mean, the idea was to make him look preposterous, ‘cause you know, he liked to shine in a negative way, didn’t he?

Steve: Yeah.

Julien: You know…I think we were doing a lot of things that were, where we took things that actually happened and tried to make it seem untrue and then we took stuff that was completely made up and tried to make it seem true. I mean, to the extent that…do you remember that there was a press conference in Rio, where we had the Bormann character lined up with you.

Steve: I don’t remember.

Julien: It was Ronnie Biggs, you Steve…Paul…

Steve: Did you film it?

Julien: Yeah, we filmed it, but the Brazilians thought he was Bormann, joining the band.

Steve: Martin Bormann.

Julien: They actually bought into that. It was amazing.

Steve: You mean, he wasn’t? I thought he was, too. (both laugh)

Julien: But it was that whole thing…

Steve: He was a “B” actor, I found out later, that guy.

Julien: Yeah, he was a Hollywood nazi, basically, you know, a character nazi.

Steve: Is that what he played? He always played nazis?

Julien: Yeah, he always played nazis. He was suitably over-the-top. But uh, you know, in a, in a way, I did the film later that I wanted to make about the Sex Pistols, The Filth And The Fury to me showed where you guys come, came from and how you know, what your lives growing up, fed into the music that you made, that it wasn’t just some mad puppet meister, molding you out, Claymation-style.

Great stuff - Tina and no it was perfectly posted no formatting problems which aye bug me pure excellence. Steppin' up...hmmm???